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"I hate theese silly topics!! Grawl! Oh! And the spanish homework until tomorrow that i will never be able to do in time!
And.... paper knives... so useless.... so pointless... just like orks.. orks should be better in 40k.... Lizardmen should never be able to misscast.... ... never....."

-subruz

"why you all got to be hating?"

-dark-eldar-lord

"Dear MJ,
You're not my friend. A real friend would never do that to me. You're just a manipulative liar. I don't want to sit next to you at school anymore.

Yours with hurt feelings,
Adam"

-The Final Battle is Coming - soon all will burn!

"What the fuck is wrong with GW. They still make half of all their shit out of pewter.
I HATE PEWTER
the shit is so fucking hard to glue and is more expensive than plastic."

-MAd Terd

"Break free if this barrier of profanity and cynicism! Though dark clouds and misfortunes might cause you to fixate on your fleshly pain...! Did you once hear the call of something greater than you and I? The very air that we breathe is pregnant with possibilities...!

I'll get you Reynard:) You beat me handily in GW games, and more glory to you! Your victories were well earned. But now, I'll meet you as an equal in the "Mechwarrior: Dark Age" universe. And if you continue to beat me, I can only laugh and salute your skills! But I've got a few LEs on order, so we'll see who triumphs!

Love and Luck be with Ye!"

-Johji

"Gah! Stinking Eldar Pirates, using their smarmy 'Ectoplasmic Mists', and Demi-Tech Space Marines with their X20 Haywire Grenade off-table support missiles! Ah! I'm dying! No...! I want to ...live....!

I'll get you commander Reynard:) Maybe not in GW universes, but I'll come against you in WizKids' Mechwarrior: The Dark Ages...! What?! You're beating me there too? Ah! Aiiyeeeh!!! Noooooo!!!!!"

-Johji

Reply to (ELDAR ARE CHEESY)
"All I want to say is all you marine players out there (including me) with your 4 statistics and your 3 up armror saves just because Eldar have weapons that can smack you around a bit doesent make them cheesy, for instance wraithlords die easy to lascannon fire and sniper fire as well I mean Eldar are very fragile but they do have certain abilities that make them anything but little panzies, also there units in my opinion far more dangerous than a wraithlord for example fielding 3 squadrons of 3 war walkers all armed with duel brightlances or starcannons thats 18 shots of tank busting death or 21 shots of troop killing death or you can mix and match . So the bottom line is Eldar arent any cheesier than any other army on the other hand they may be fragile but their anything but wimps!

(P.S. R.E Abadon the despoiler chaos champion you lame fuck if you look back about 7 or 8 issues or so in white dwarf youll see a battle report where Abaddon gets beat down by Eldrad Ulthuan.)"

-MARINEDAR

" "abbadon the despoiler chaos champion" if you want to talk spec9ial charachters, talk asurmen. not only do you need a 6 to hit him in c combat, but he has a 3+ inv save, rerolls misses, all for 137 points sowhat if he has only5 attacks, hell still take out abbadon. Ive done that before in fact, but abbadon had taken a few starcannon shots to hte chest & had 2 wounds left. his pussy deamonsword bounced right off asurmens 3+ and then he got finished by a banshee exarch. chaos are good but abbadon is just overated frankly. Once in a wite (shit) dwarf battle rep, abbadon got killled by eldrad! i mean he wounds on a 2+ & ingnores armor saves! Eldrad did have his buddies fromthe seer council to back him up though."

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"sximi"

-xismisisi

"Why are all the guys who work at GW late 20 something vergins who still live with their mothers? Is that like a pre-requisite to get a job there? Anyway - i agree that space marines are to good. If anyone can give me reason otherwise (or even just one legitimate weakness) id love to hear it"

-ACE

"i hate how all my opponets are shooters and make their boards perfect for shooting! how would that work fluffwise? as they approached the battlefield just like every other battlefield they have ever been on, it happened to be perfect for shooters! wow these are geographical statistics breakers! oh here come the tyranids *sounds of guns firing occurs for two seconds no casualities for their side just all tyranids dead* all done they are gone lets go gets some cofee..."

-the very angry carnifex you mentioned...

"wow you guys are good at making an abusive sentance. i could never manage to fit that many 'fucks' even in a story! and tyranids are the ultimate challenge to play. 'shoot the big ones!' is the bane oof us tyranids and a real challenge at the same time. but anyway necrons shouldnt get back up ON A 4+! thats insane! and they are too godmody 'no matter what necrons simply teleport back and fix up their numbers, no biggie.' at least us tyranids can actually DIE! no matter how many of us there are!

also i think its stupid that these big tought american footballers put on all this protective gear and then complain about injurys! dont make the game so violent morons! and plus we aussies play a game just as rough as american football without padding. its called rugby... and WE dont complain from injurys!"

-the very angry carnifex you mentioned...

"Hate it when your friend uses your glue paint or primer when they cost so much then they doesn't tell you!"

-Person Gettingthere glue and pant jacked

"I HATE GAYWORKSHOP eh gameworkshop. When I began collecting in '89 (and sometime playing it ;) ) it was still fun. BUt those nasty people at GWS ruined it by publicing new rules all the F*ck*ng time..they totally ruined my space orks and necromuda and Man'owar is gone (Grrrrr) the new undead suck and those new races for 40k are totally stupid. The new models are so big that all my old models look like dwarfs and the new metal...ARGGGHHH I HATE IT!! I want the good old lead tin stuff. So what lead is not good for ya health..drink milk!

I hate it when some one only buys certain units (space wolf 2nd edition, only terminators...HElP!)
I dont like those stupid too strong special characters and and uhm...well grrrrr. I hate those players that always try to bend the rules there way and get irritated when ya trow the rule book at there stupid little faces.

ah lovelly...ranting...visit my site http://www.xs4all.nl/~spdkliem/

Oh yeah BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD SKULLS FOR HIS THRONE
MAIM SLASH BURN MAIM SLASH BURN MAIM SLASH BURN"

-Kuro Abyss

"What happened to the other races?
All the fluff is from the bloody imperiums point of view. Humanity V Alien Scum - codex space marine chapter after chapter. codex deathskull, goff, snakebite? It's a wargame there should be background to the battles. Half the time its blood angels v dark angels. least orks and chaos justify killing their own armies!

Chaos codex? what the $^&*%# happened there? why do we pay for rule corrections - chapter approved should be free - they expect us to get every white dwarf?

what the (&%^^% bikes move just twice the speed of foot troops - 2nd ed they were fastest on the field.

Red Wunz Go Fasta"

-WazzaRazza

"STUPID COCK FUCK DUMBASS SUCKERS. ELDARS RULE U JUST SUCK SO MUCH THAT THEY BEAT U UP EVERY FOOKIN TIME. WANKERS LEARN TO PLAY OR SUCK COK. ELDAR IS THE BEST ARMY THEY KILL U ALL WITH STARCANNONS. WRAITHLORDS RULE SO MUCH"

-WANKER

"i hate not hating anything! it sucks! i got to hold the new grey knight space marines...they rock... *laps's into a extatic coma*"

-The Cheshire Cat

"blood angles rule
if ne 1 has a decent 1500 point army send it to alexstevensonkoolkid@hotmail.com "

-grunger

"i h8 life it is total F**king S*it"

-grunger

"I hate it when I'm on the train with my Warhammer-obessessed acquaintance (I refuse to acknowledge the fucker as a friend) and he starts raving about his fucking Attack Bikes and multi-meltas and plasma pistols and fucking VDR at the top of his voice and everyone looks at me, squirming with embarrasment in my seat, like I'm fucking insane. And when I eventually tell him to shut the fuck up cos he's making a fool out of the pair of us, he just grins and says, "Why should I be ashamed of it? This is my hobby, this is what I do," and proceeds to rant and rave about the virtues of turbolaser destructors and make fucking laser gun noises. Aaraargh! I fucking hate him! But he's the only person I know who's older than 13 and still collects Warhammer. It's just a game to me! I play once a week for maybe four hours at the absolute maximum, but this fucker's obsessed! All he talks about is Warhammer, Warhammer, fucking Warhammer! IT'S A FUCKING NICHE HOBBY AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR A BEATING TALKING ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC! Can't we talk about girls or that classy new pub that opened in the high street or what was on TV last night? No, because he's a fucking prude who doesn't like sinful pleasures of the flesh, he doesn't drink because he'd rather spend the money on fucking toy soldiers and he doesn't watch any decent TV because he goes to sleep at eight o'clock in the evening. Did I mention that I hate him? But I quite like Warhammer as pure escapism for a few hours a week, NOT A FUCKING WAY OF LIFE! AAAAAAARGGGH!"

-Person with a lot of pent up anger and frustration

"eldrad and eldar raper are a pair of wankers who should take thair arguments elsewhere!"

-Knob rot

"willy boy"

-Balthazar gelt supreme patriarch.

"i h8 40 k"

-Balthazar gelt supreme patriarch.

"Orks in warhammer are the biggest pile of shit i have ever played, i play empire and havent lost to my hopeless ork collecting friend. sodd your double doin dooh dahs and yer itty rings one shot from the great cannon and lets see what you cast twice then asshole! ps fanatics suck ass. as do night goblins as do fuckin night goblin shamens with mad capped mushrooms that do shit allappart from waste the ork player 25pts"

-Balthazar gelt supreme patriarch.

"Why do you waste your time reading this cock and bull when you could be loseing to necrons in a very enjoyable game of 40k, go on naff of!"

-The deciever!

"What sort of a wanker are you?"

-Abaddon the despoiler chaos champion.

"I play tyranids and i loose to chaos fairly often so any asshole who thinks they are 'cheesy' or too good can swivel"

-Abaddon the despoiler chaos champion.

"Fuck your fucking fucked up heap of shit wraithlords, one prod from abaddon's deamon sword drachnyen and that lanky shit aint so scary. the pussy wagging eldar can go stick their beloved wraithlords on the nearest scrap heap with the rest of their bullshit. HA HA toughness 3 woo im quakeing in my boots!!!!"

-Abaddon the despoiler chaos champion.

"ELDRAD YOU FUCKING LOSER YOU DONT NEED 6'S TO HIT THE TALOS IN COMBAT MOST INTELLIGENT GAMERS KNOW THAT BUT YOU PLAY ELDAR SO YOU MUST BE A 10 YEAR OLD RETARD THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT ABOUT HOW FUCKING STUPID ELDAR PLAYERS ARE YOU PIECE OF SHIT"

-ELDAR ARE CHEESY

"FUCK YOU BRITISH CUNTS AND YOUR FUCKING BIG BEN"

-BRITISH KILLA

"I hate it when my mate's just broken up with his girlfriend and he wants me to give him advice on how to win her back. Hello? I collect fucking toy soldiers and your asking me for advice on relationships?! Mind you, only a handful of my mates know about my dirty little hobby and he wasn't one of them. But then I told him the only relationship I've ever been in was a fumble in a dark room with two drunken sisters at a party - and that one lasted, oooh, three minutes?"

-This has nothing to do with Warhammer, does it?

"Whyd stupidass GW take away Armorcast's License. I mean they made good models at a reasonable price with a huge selection. Unlike the shitty forgeworld that hugely overprices chessy models with no selection (especially for Nids) I mean i can get 125 dollar bug that looks gay a kinda cool lookin Harridan but it cost 2oo bucks. I mean the shitty whiners at Gw thought that they maybe could make money off it to if they overpriced thier peices of shit because they thought Armorcast was getting too much money. The only place you can find them now is on Ebay (which i hope i dont have to say but you can never find at even original price)."

-Man O Nids

"you rantrs need to get a life"

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"People who cant deal with a wraithlord (or three) using a whole 3 heavy support choices should have been abandoned at birth-yes the wraithlord is good but in a shooty battle a whole heavy support choice is often too much to pay for one dreadnought equvilent. Other races get just as much unfair trash as the eldar, you should just learn to use your army properly, i mean a talos is just as nasty, is nastier in fact than the wraithlord- you need a six to hit him in combat! and dont get me started on new deamon princes or the nightbringer (who my friend killed with a terminator storm squad just a few days ago)."

-Eldrad

"I hate my life, but am too cowardly to commit suicide. Kind of like Shinji in "Neon Genesis Evangelion". Giant robots away! I collect Tau."

-Loser boy that everybody hates

"why do you all bitch about whos the best army when you should all know that chaos kick arse. ive started collecting black legion and not lost a game and the only army i have not fought is chaos.
all the new races necros, tau, tyranids are shit but they make good target pratice for my chaos forces. Eldar are the gayist army in the game "o, i'll hide on some over rated trailer home. and run away when the scary wars are coming." "

-Quorn Star

"isnt marneus calgar just the best mines ace no1 can beat him 1 took on logan grimnar ragnar blackmane and ulrik the slayer
i kicked thier ass i took no wounds either he is ace paited and cant be beaten"

-tim

"I love the Tau, because they fight for Great Justice. Know that when I kill you all and enslave your worlds it is because I love you."

-Shas'o Mal'caor J'kaara

"anyone could win with eldar"

"how many times have i heard that piece of shit. What army do you play? they are all the same and if you have not come to that realisation then your either a rookie or stupid."

-Eldrad

"What the hell is wrong with Arthur Wallis (he posted near the top page2)? I agree that losing is an important part of warhammer and should be embraced as a learning experience and shouldn't take much fun out of the game.

But the next part pissed me off:

"...I hate anyone who plays Plain-old space marines or eldar and is actually proud of their army. But most of all, I hate people who spend so mutch time painting their army (20+ hours a week) that THEY start to hate those who dont!
People! its all right to paint your army with a cue tip!"

What a jack ass. There's nothing wrong with plain ol space marines. They're fun to play. I only have one 40k army, they are plain ol space marines, and I am proud of them.

I spend around 10-20 hours painting a week (if I have the time) and I think it's important to do your best on your figs. There's nothing better than seeing the climax of a battle with 1000's of points worth of well painted and loved miniatures clashing on the battle field.

I would never put down someone else's paint job, but for god's sake DON'T PAINT YOUR ARMY WITH A CUE TIP!!!!"

-Tylak

"My rant is about people who keep ranting about the game they play but keep on playing....

Quit.

Play VOID."

-Jac

"So Hive Mind says, 'Nothing can stand against us. We are cleaning.' Ha ha ha! What are you, a janitor? Get back to cleaning the toilet! Remember, nothing can stand against you! Except a nasty blockage in the U-bend - the bane of the sanitation engineer!"

-Shas'el Fook Yu

RE'ELDAR ARE CHEESY'
"What the hell are talking about!! the Eldar are one of the most fragile armies in 40k I just think you got beat because your opponent knows how to kick ass with them. trust me I used to be an Eldar hater myself until I seen how cool they really are when you use them right. You cant argue with me on this because Im also a marine player and Ive been on both sides of the fence on this issue."

-MARINEDAR

"Has anyone looked at the space marines codex lately. Its fucked, fucked mutherfucking fucked. Assult marines without jump packs are fucking 10 points a model. Has anyone looked at that lately. Seems a little wrong. I think Gav thorpe mr dodgy himself and a couple others had a few cones before deciding this fucked up decision. "Wouldn't it be funny if we made 10 points marines otherwise their just a bunch of fucking morons that obviously cant count fucking right 25-15=10 a fucking marine is 15 something seem fucked up!"

-F!@# Gav "dickhead" thorpe

"I hate it when you go and apply for a job only to have the interviewer say "I'm sorry but we are looking for Experianced workers." Come on where are you supposed to get experiance if you never get hired!!"

-Michael

"I HAVE FUCKING SCUM WHO PLAY ELDAR THEY ARE RETARDED KIDS WHO PICKED THE GAYEST ARMY OF ALL GAV THORE SUCKS HE MADE ELDAR THE CHEESIEST ARMY EVER ELDAR PLAYERS LIKE TO SUCK GAV THORPES DICK BECAUSE THEY ARE FAGGOTS THATS WHAT ELDAR ARE THE WRAITHLORD IS TOO FUCKING GOOD ANY IDIOT COULD WIN WITH SUCH A CHEESY THING FUCK ALL ELDAR PLAYING SCUM I AM GOING TO BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!"

-ELDAR ARE CHEESY

"i fuckin' hate how everyone thinks ultramarines are just 4 newbies and that they are cheesy....i've been gamin' and paintin' for 6 years and i have a total kick ass ultramarines army.
i also hate ALL chaos legions, bow down to your rightful emperor you blasphemous wanks.
oh! and the only assholes who think that space marines are nazi's are the shitbag's that are the ones gettin their ass kicked off the imperium game after game so suck my cock all you traitors!"

"for guilliman and the emperor........COURAGE AND HONOUR!"

-Brother Brutus Giallus

"All this meaningles sound will be stopped. Hive mind will consume your useless flesh and mind, so all your arguement will be used for better purposes in the universe.

Nothing can stand against us. We are cleaning. You are a disease. We are the cure. We are fast. Your emperor will be a strong genetical knowledge, eldar will be corn flake and thier dark cousins will open the warp for us, while the already dead necrons will taste their second deaths from our hand. Orc will be the green ketchup of our food, necron will make us "popeye" and sisters will add juicy tastes.

Nothing can stand against us.

We are cleaning the universe. From fools such as you..."

-Hive mind

"RE ELDRAD"
"Well...... I owe an apology to a lot of Eldar players out there specialy to you Eldrad. last night I got wiped off the board by a BielTan army of howling Banshees and Scorpians backed with fire dragons I was slaughterd to a man and thats all im gonna say

Ill have to admitt my opponent played his army soo well it made me want to dig out my Eldar again witch I have about 5000 pts in in fact I might just do that, I still aint givin up marines though Well Eldrad I guess Im going to apologize for talking soo much smack. My name is no longer Eldar Raper.
P.S. dont quit the pointees!!"

-MARINEDAR

"Coratus, this one's for you baby!
I LOVE modelling and painting my Gue'vesa'la Human Auxiliaries, and dreaming up fluff for the long-lost planet on the Eastern Frontier of the Tau Empire that they are recruited from, plus creating special characters, which makes me moist with excitement!"

-Big Fat Horny Samoan Woman

"part from deamon prince) same with wreaithlord."

-Eldrad

"I HATE it when people dis necrons, NECRONS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!"

-Nightbringer

"i hate men, especially roman catholic priests, who break their vows. they do not follow God's ten commandments. they send other vulnerable people (especially widows), pornography, pictures of themselves in the NUDE, send you graphic emails of how they would make love to you. ths is so disgusting. you keep telling them to stop this destructive behavior and they just won't do it. they tell you how much they love you one minutes and then they turn around and stab you in the back by judging you harshly. why don't they look at their own lives. most of them admit being gay, abusing children, having been married, having children. etc. Is this sick society or what? then you have these doctors who help the sick. well, to be honest, they are sickening themselves. they take advantage (again, of widows especially), by playing mind games. these educated men have no morals and values and in my opinion are a bunch of scumbags..you can't even trust your damn psychiatrist
. get a load of this...you've been seeing this psycho for 14 years and then he ruins everything by telling you that doctors have affairs. then he tells you so and so wants to have an affair with you. and if you don't give in, you as a patient, pay for it big time. they control EVERYTHING. if they do no want a certain doctor to pay attention to you; they will make it happen. doctors have alot of power and they know they can get away with murder. they abuse patients and do whatever they want. i know because i had a bad experience. i was hospitalized and this one doctor that knows me well and likes me gave me a hint that when I stayed overnight at he hospital, I was given Demerol and he went in to my room and caressed my body. Is this so immoral, unprofessional and unethical. how about the psyciatrist telling me about doctors wanting to have affairs..is this ethical. he inflicted emotional distress and he knows it. is this the way to treat a vulnerable, grieving, injur
ed, widow? it seems, these bastards are ALL taking advantage of my situation. I HOPE THEY ALL BURN IN HELL. they know very well what they are doing to me and I DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT. It angers me when MEN take advantage of single, divorced and mainly WIDOWS. I think you get my message VERY CLEAR AND TO THE POINT. MANY of these men abuse their authority, power, and social status in society TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. i don't need ANY OF THEIR CRAP...I am too smart for this. They know that what they are doing is MORALLY AND ETHICALLY WRONG. Many of them stalk me over the internet, via telephone, via the mail, etc. THIS IS ABUSE OF POWER. they get into your computer system to read your personal emails, change them, delete them, delete files...I WONDER IF THEY WOULD LIKE THIS TYPE OF TREATMENT. BUT I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING...IF YOU THINK YOU ARE SCREWING WITH ME; YOU ARE ONLY SCREWING YOURSELF BECAUSE ONE OF THESE DAYS YOU WILL PAY HEAVILY FOR WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS ESPECIALLY
WOMEN WHO ARE DEFENSELESS AND GRIEVING AND AT THEIR LOWEST POINT. GOD KNOWS YOUR EVERY INTENTIONS AND YOU SURELY WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS BEFORE YOU DIE...GUARANTEED...I'VE WITNESSED IT!"

-mary

"Wow, I cant beleive you fools spend the time to insult armies (except for you Robin). Everyone knows that some armies (Blood Angels, Alaitoc) are unbalanced, but dont continue to whine.

Does anyone on here care about painting or fluff???

Does anyone on here not complain about what they dont like???

Does anyone on here other than me find the word gay overused, and only kids with the imagination and creativity to call something other than gay, fag or homo?

Sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

-Coratus

"Hey.."Kharn"
chaos are a badass army but you are tacking it way to far-veteren skills cant be given too berserkers, an a khornate lord would only have 8 attacks if you gave him that BMF scythe. Im am thinking of starting to collect chaos soon so i guess ill start ranting as "Abaddon" or "Ahrimann" and NO this does not mean im giving up Eldar, they still rock but Im gonna wait till they get some more fluff & a new codex. The thing that i think should be fixed about the new codex is the possibility of the Uber-Prince that ignores armour AND invunerable saves, cant be instant deathed, is t7, s6 and has 4 wounds. This comes out at about 200-180 pts but look what marines can have for that much. Not to mention the legion special rules.. or the defiler..or the reduced points cost."

-Eldrad...or is it... Ahriman?

"And also "Eldar Raper".... all were doing on this site is spamming each other so if we could move our vendetta to a boar with instant updates im sure i could get you to see my point earlier. You name the board & ill sign up for it."

-Eldrad

"they should make a rule in the rulebook, where, like, you can turn down any player because he or she is a MORON.

i dont know if you noticed, but i hate people who dont realize that its a game and that you dont have to play against anyone you dont want to.

i also hate bacon. especially greasy bacon."

-El Cheshire Gato

"Argh! I thought having to play at a club dominated by little kids would be simple, but they're so fucking annoying that I have actually started socialising instead of attending those banal Warhammer Club sessions! Those kids ask the most stupid questions! What's the biggest army, is it tyranids? WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT? HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO INTERPRET THAT? Do you think I should paint my Necrons gold? I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, THEY'RE YOUR MINIATURES, DO WHAT YOU LIKE! And then they start fighting over my rulebook, which naturally gets ripped to shreds! Fuck!"

-The Artist Formerly Known As Kiddie Fiddler

"I can not wait till all these Chaos Players to get the New Codex!!!!!!!!!

Finally Loyalists ++ Marines, Sisters of Battle and Imperial Guard++ can be fighting the main evil of the Imperium. Instead of fighting each other,because everyone collects an army of the Imperium of some kind.........

Granted I love playing against Necrons, Tau Boyz, Bugs and Orks, but the new Codex will spring players to the Evil side of the game, just like when the Necrons surfaced!!!!"

-Mr. DoTz..................................

"aldar r the best team ever i have never lots and im 16 with 1500pt and i will never loose i can beat fuck chaos with out loseing more than 200pt and i can bet dark alder with me ayas closed i loose about 50pt aldar r the best and can be beaten try and take on a avatar in close combat (no chance) and a wrathlord, dark reapers fuck use all right up and can even tuch them ALDAR ARE THE BEST AND BE FUCKEN AND ANY OTHER TEAM SUCK FUCK DICK"

-SLASHER

"This week were gonna talk about how much starcannons blow and how the plasmacannon is superior. Well lets due the math, if your not playing Ulthway we know that on average with balistic skill 3 a starcanon will hit 1 and a half out of 3 times rounding down 1 and rounding up 2 with a str of 6 AP 2.
Now lets look at the plasma canon Marines are B.S 4, the plasma cannon is STR 7 A.P 2 with a blast template. Whats the big difference?
The plasmacannon with B.S 4 will usually hit and the blast template will catch usualy 3 or 4 models underneath averageing 3 kills a turn the starcannon averageing 1.5 hits is only making 1 or 2 kills a turn also the +1 STR means the plasma cannon glances 12 armor on 5s not 6s!! So there it is boys and girls and remember FRIENDS DONT LET
FRIENDS PLAY ELDAR!!!!!!!"

-ELDAR RAPER

"YOU BUNCH OF DICK SUCKERS.
YOUR BITCHEN ABOUT 3+ POINTS AND ALL THAT SHIT.
I WANTED TO START PLAYING WARHAMMER 40K BUT YOU BUNCH OF PUSSIES HAVE PUT ME OFF

P.S
GET A LIFE IT'S A GAME WITH PLASTIC MODELS."

-YOU FUCK UP'S

"What is everyone's problem with little kids? The kids at my after school 40K club look up to me because I am the only adult member of the group. The adorable little tykes are so eager to ask questions - what's a Pathfinder? Who's O'Shovah? I may not have the respect of my fellow 18 year old student layabout types but at least little 13 year old kids respect me. Leave them kids alone!"

-Kiddie Fiddler

"ill apoligize to everone but karn the betrayer
hes a dumb ass"

-mortaveous

"ummm....marine vet sergents in bike squads CANNOT have a choice from the SM armoury. i know this is stupid, but take a look at your codex. As a vanilla player, your main disadvantage to chapter players, like dark angels, is that your tactical, bike, and veteren squad vet sergents cant have extra weaponry. instead of slandering the Eldar, take a look at the codex and youl see im right.

You are right about the eldar and breaking up their general support structure, but this is easier to say than do. to fight marines, (white scars and wolves not included) i usualy take:

5 10-19 strong gaurdium squads with either starcannons or brightlances, with warlocks with either embolden (so the meatshield stays in place longer)or cxonceal(so they stay alive longer) , depening on their planned role. Gaurdiuns are central to my play- they form a battle line behind which my more vunerable units can hide

1 10 man ranger squad- i love these guys. They can be used in conunction with scorps as infiltrators, with scorps to hold a position in cover (relitivly cheap), or just sit at the back causing general mayhem to the enemy's forces.

for my hq, i take the usual obligatory seer concill and tailor their abilities to suit the mission and thier role in it. I can generaly use them to keep my gaurdiuns alive a LOT longer, assasinate enemy sergents, weapons troopers, etc. theyt can also be not too shabby in cc if you trow an avatar in the mix.My other hq cho9ice varies always, dependimng on what my opponent has taken.

for fast attack, i take a mob of vypers as tank hunters, with holo feild,crystal targeting matrix, etc.i also take 5 swooping hawks with a maxed exarch so i can keep the enemy geussing.

Elites i take the obligatory banshee mob (10 strong,mounted on waveserpent,etc), and some dragons to take care of and tough units that get to close to my main lines.

Hvy suport i take a wraithlord, possibly with a starcannon, or even 2. I take a squad of 3 warwalkers with starcannons i know they are fragile, but **6** starcannons-1 marine squad of any shape or size dead every turn. to
protect them , i hide them behind either my seer coincil or sokme other tall unit.i also take a squad of 3 dcannons. these i put whereve the action will be the thickest,behind a gauriun squad which is being fortuned. I sometimes detach a farseer for the express purpose of guiding them. by the way- your army had 4 hvy support choices

phew, i think thats it. i usualy set up a supported battle line with the gaurdiuns sheilding my other units, with my banshees jumping in wherever neccecary. this army is abot 2100-1700pts. feel free to come to nz and play me any time. should be fun. if im playin a smaller battle, my strategy stays the same, i just cut down on the more expensive units.

Why dont you just play dark angels? they are almost exactly like normal maines, just with some extras"

-Eldrad

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